Pierre Carl Ouellet started his professional wrestling career in 1987, traveling the independent scene around Canada, North America, and Puerto Rico.?
But in 1993, Ouellet got his break when he signed with the WWE and formed The Quebecer tag team with Jacques Rougeau. The duo won the tag team titles on three occasions before going their separate ways in 1994 when Rougeau retired.?
In 1995, Ouellet?embarked on a singles run as a pirate with an eyepatch covering his right eye named?Jean-Pierre LaFitte. Ouellet had a series of great matches with the legendary Bret Hart before exiting the company in 1995.?
After that, Ouellet went on to have a short run in WCW alongside Rougeau and then back to WWE before spending the majority of his time on the independent scene from 2003-2007, with stints at TNA sandwiched in between.
On his final quest to live out his dream of becoming a world champion, Ouellet wanted one more legitimate run in the business before calling it a career. He came with the name PCO (the first three initials of his name) in which he would depict a French-Canadian Frankenstein character would be immune to pain.?
The character took off at the beginning of 2018, and Ouelett hasn't looked back. The hard work paid off for the 51-year-old when he signed a full-time contract with Ring of Honor at the end of 2018. Since he entered the company, PCO has won the ROH tag team titles with Brody King and is part of the Marty Scurll-led Villian Enterprises, who are the current six-man tag team champions. And because of the partnership between ROH and the NWA, PCO, and King won the Crockett Cup in April that also seen them become the tag team champs.
Ahead of ROH's Best in the World pay-per-view event on Friday night in Baltimore, where Villian Enterprises defend their titles against Mark Haskins, PJ Black, and Tracy Williams, PCO talks with Sporting News about his resurgence in wrestling, his views on working with Scurll and King and where his career would be without his match against WALTER in April 2018.
(Editor's note: This interview has been edited for clarity.)
Sporting News: Ring of Honor gave you the chance to be back on a national platform. It’s been around seven months since you have been with the promotion when he debuted with them at the end of 2018. How would you characterize your time so far with ROH?
PCO: It’s been going so fast. I’ve been enjoying myself a lot here. From day one, they wanted me to continue doing my videos and go along with the character that I was doing on the indies as the French Canadian Frankenstein with the electricity and being in the electric chair. I got to have the most spectacular entrance in Ring of Honor history at the G1 Supercard at the soldout Madison Square Garden. This is very important to me in my career achievements. That entrance has been compared by fans to The Undertaker and to have 20,000 fans chanting, ‘He’s not human’ and going insane.
SN: When your name comes up, a lot of people still think back to 25 years ago when you teamed up with Jacques Rougeau to form The Quebecers. Does it surprise that fast forward you would still be wrestling 25 years later because you arguably look the same now as you did back then?
PCO: After my runs with Jacques as The Quebecers and The Amazing French Canadians with WCW and as Jean-Pierre Lafitte where I had my big feud with Bret Hart, I was a commentator for TNA on the French TV doing voiceovers. I came up with the name PCO when I got popular doing that show, and all I was doing was color commentating. I got really popular in my hometown of Quebec in Montreal. I said to myself, ‘Imagine if I can do this worldwide and all over the United States. I know I can get that over. If I did it here, I could do it all over the place.’
And I knew right then I could do something with it and reinvent myself. But it seemed like every idea I was throwing at Vince (McMahon) and WWE, he didn’t think it was a good idea, or creative didn’t think it was going to work out. It was hard for me to try and sell something. But I could understand at the time that I wasn’t in demand because I wasn’t booked all over the world. When I started back in 2017, I wasn’t going to come back for wrestling to be just a hobby or just as a part-time job.
My goal when I was 14-years-old was to become a world champion and impact the business as a wrestler. So I went back to England working seven days and a week and making the same amount of money for traveling all over the United Kingdom; driving in the car back-and-forth for five-six hours at a time every day and sleeping in cheap hotels and sharing rooms with someone else. My boss at the TV station said he could hold my job for me for three months so if it doesn’t work out or if I don’t get booked by WWE then I could come back there. I told them if I was to fall back on this job it's because I don’t believe in myself so go ahead and hire somebody else because I’m going to quit right now. I didn't know?what the future had for me. I met with WWE three times while I was in England and nothing worked out. I went back home. That’s how much I believed in myself because even though it didn’t pay off there or other times after that.
But it did pay off in 2018 at Joey Janela’s Spring Break during the weekend of Wrestlemania 34. A lot of people say I got lucky, and I was in the right place at the right time. I just call it when you get an opportunity, you got to be ready for it, and that’s what I did. For all of those years, I was waiting for that opportunity in 2018.
SN: Where do you think you’d be if the match with WALTER doesn’t happen?
PCO: I don’t know. There are so many questions that made everything happen. I tried a lot of things, and the doors had appeared to be closed. And then I started to do some reviews on a YouTube channel and analyzing and making predictions for WWE pay-per-views. I began to get some people to follow me, and promoters began getting in touch with me. Then the indy scene started to open up first in Canada and then from there I got picked up by Black Label Pro. They brought me into Indiana, and Joey Janela was on the show. That was January 13, 2018, and there was a snowstorm in Montreal. I stayed for six hours waiting for my flight because it wouldn’t take off because there was too much snow. I was praying all day I could make the show as I was scheduled to work with Ethan Page. I got there and had 15 minutes to lace up my boots and to get ready for the match. We got in the ring and killed it.
Joey was there. On the way back to the room?he started asking me questions. He said he was going to book me on his show on Wrestlemania weekend because his show the previous WrestleMania weekend generated a lot of buzz and he wanted me to get some that buzz. Then he told me it would be against this big German-Austrian guy, WALTER. I didn’t know who he was because I wasn’t very familiar with his work and the whole indy scene. So I started watching a lot of tapes like a lot of PWG, a lot of Evolve and everything surrounding the indy scene. He said he wanted me, but they couldn’t afford to fly me in so if I was going to wrestle, I had to drive myself there. I took my car and drove 40 hours there and 40 hours to get back. It was a few days because I was driving for a 25-minute match, including my introduction. It was like Rocky IV except it wasn’t cold. About halfway through the match, everybody was standing and ecstatic. There were a lot of good exchanges, including a moonsault to the outside, and everybody started clapping their hands. There was a big buzz on Twitter. From there, the fame was on, and it took off finally after trying so many times to get something going.
SN: Do you ever sit back and think about what a ride this last 14 months has been when so many felt you’d never get back to this point?
PCO: Most of the time, I do. If this ended today or tomorrow, I’d be very proud of what I accomplished. I’m very grateful to all those people along the way and the promotions that led me to Ring of Honor. I’ve done so many things, and they have gone down the drain and should have been over with.
I had been all over in 2018 until Ring of Honor gave me a call and we had some meetings about being part of Villian Enterprises. All those things I had done suddenly all connected all together.
SN: How good are Marty Scurill and Brody King?
PCO: They are super good. I rate them high up there. Marty is a wrestling genius. He’s outstanding about marketing himself and about us. He can wrestle. All the guys that are brought up to wrestle in England have put so many hours doing it like the chain wrestling, the counter holds and the things like that. The guys from the U.K. are ahead of everybody else around the world. He’s a great promo guy and can handle the pressure well.
Brody King is still pretty new to this business. He’s only been around for five, six years. He’s super confident. He can jump from the top rope and do some high flying. He’s a monster and super strong. He can do it all.
I have a lot of respect for those two guys. When Ring of Honor asked me to be part of Villian Enterprises, I wanted to because I’ve known Marty since 2007 in England and I got along good with him back then, and I thought the chemistry would be unbelievable. And I had worked against Brody King during all of 2018 in different promotions. For me, it was a no brainer to join these guys. It’s been a fantastic year so far.